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A Beautiful Lifetime Event by [livejournal.com profile] astolat. Nearly 30,000 words of John, Rodney, and their kid. Eventually, they have sex.

The thing I appreciate about this story is that it does for me what the show has not done, which is put McShep in a situation that is fraught and only experienced directly by the two of them, so they are forced to uniquely rely on each other and, in the fullness (very, very full) become lovers because they mean more to each other than anyone else in the world. Also, since they are de facto married, most ladies won't want to sleep with them.

To my mind, John and Rodney on the show don't exhibit anything like the particular relationship that would lead to them becoming lovers. Half the time, I'm not entirely convinced they're friends. I'm sure they like each other, but is it any more than someone cool at the office?

In this story, because John and Rodney live together and have to relate to each other over the daughter they love to pieces, the story brings the heightened emotional life that allows them to eventually get with the getting on.

The thing I can't figure out though is whether or not I think it takes too long to get to that sexual place. Like, on the one hand, people don't switch sexual orientation on a whim that much. And the John and Rodney in this story are pretty clearly straight. Like, even after they have sex with each other, still basically straight, just monogamous with a person who happens to be male. On the other hand, hello, slash story presented in slash fandom, that hand has been dealt before.

No actual conclusion here, just thought I'd throw that out and see what people thought.

Date: 2005-08-25 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tafkarfanfic.livejournal.com
It seemed forced to me - it seemed like the author was SPECIFICALLY forcing a situation where John would have to choose between his new relationship and his old "family". It also seemed ridiculous that John and Rodney couldn't have an adult conversation about it. That was the point beyond which I could not read, because the story had lost me.

Date: 2005-08-25 03:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] neth-dugan.livejournal.com
That's a good point, I supose. But, they needed a major conflict at some point. Something to show them that they were actually married and what they meant to each other at that time.

And, true, they probably should have had a more mature conversation. But Rodney was rather upset over his kid being scared like that, John was probably upset that he'd scared his kid and pissed off Rodney. And both of them are strong willed people, and can be stubborn. So it's not unbelievable that it'd take them a bit to sort it all out. But, they do, and it doesn't take that long.

Date: 2005-08-25 04:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amalthia
Strangely the part that I re-read the most in this story is that fight and just reading Rodney's reaction brought tears to my eyes. BTW...i've seen a lot of "adults" fight over the dumbest things so I wan't at all shocked or surprised by their argument and how it turned out.

I think it was an issue that had to be addressed at one point or another. And I think it worked out. A lot of parents stay together because of the kids. It's not that far-fetched. It doesn't hurt that John and Rodney respect and like each other as people. I've seen people stay together with far less than that.

I really loved that line when John realizes he can't take Hypatia away without realizing what it was doing to Rodney...or something like that. I really felt the emotions reading the story.

don't get me wrong, if the two guys hated each other, argued all the time, or whatever I'd be all for them splitting up and sharing the kid because no kid needs to see that kind of relationship.

Basically, I don't think the author specificaly forced the situation. I imagine that if this was real life the issue really would have come up eventually.

Date: 2005-08-25 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carolyn-claire.livejournal.com
it seemed like the author was SPECIFICALLY forcing a situation where John would have to choose between his new relationship and his old "family".

I think she was, I think she was wanting to make that happen to forward the plot and the relationship, yeah. She wanted that "hey, actually, we're married" realization to happen, so she created the dramatic revealing moment. But I can see how it might seem uncharacteristic of Rodney to react that way (though, as I said, I have mom-sympathy so I could go with it.) And I thought she was having them play it out more like a jealous, insecure reaction in a more romantic relationship (which I know not everyone would feel, but I think a lot of people would and do) so that we see what's going on, and what's coming, we clue in to what's actually developing between them before the guys do. That's how it struck me, but, then, I love the relationship angst like a big ho, which you know about me. *g*

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