I am always suspicious of "logical standpoints" when they are expressed as though logic were a totally impartial bias-eradicating tool which isn't totally influenced by its own history of bias and domination... but that's really just an aside to this conversation, except inasmuch as we know that no two fans are ever going to completely agree over what is and isn't OOC, no matter how much logic gets invoked.
I'm arguing semantics though, because yes, I think that feelings matter in this context! I think they matter a lot! I think they pretty much always matter and I am pretty sure they always condition our 'logical responses' too. ;)
And what's more, I don't think that cathexys or anyone else is presenting a reading of they're straight guys, all they care about is sex, anyway – I'm not, certainly. I wouldn't have been anything like as interested in this story if it had been a PWP with John and Rodney having straight=man-lesbian-sex for the hell of it; I love it so much because of the way we see their feelings and their identities change as they come together and move into deeper intimacy. (Well, for that and for the queer cultural references, of course. :) )
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Re: *is tracking conversation*
Date: 2007-04-12 12:14 am (UTC)I'm arguing semantics though, because yes, I think that feelings matter in this context! I think they matter a lot! I think they pretty much always matter and I am pretty sure they always condition our 'logical responses' too. ;)
And what's more, I don't think that cathexys or anyone else is presenting a reading of they're straight guys, all they care about is sex, anyway – I'm not, certainly. I wouldn't have been anything like as interested in this story if it had been a PWP with John and Rodney having straight=man-lesbian-sex for the hell of it; I love it so much because of the way we see their feelings and their identities change as they come together and move into deeper intimacy. (Well, for that and for the queer cultural references, of course. :) )